Comments on: Arguing Effectively http://rpgcentric.com/arguing-effectively.html One gamer's opinion of everything RPG Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:01:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Weekly D&D Link-Around: Jan 25th « Jonathan Drain’s D20 Source: Dungeons & Dragons Blog http://rpgcentric.com/arguing-effectively.html/comment-page-1#comment-2351 Weekly D&D Link-Around: Jan 25th « Jonathan Drain’s D20 Source: Dungeons & Dragons Blog Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:20:46 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=937#comment-2351 [...] RPGCentric: Arguing Effectively [...] [...] RPGCentric: Arguing Effectively [...]

]]> By: reveal http://rpgcentric.com/arguing-effectively.html/comment-page-1#comment-2280 reveal Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:49:52 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=937#comment-2280 @Jeffrey - That's a really good idea. I know of a few sites that have fallacies explained. I may have to delve deeper into them. :) @Jeffrey – That’s a really good idea. I know of a few sites that have fallacies explained. I may have to delve deeper into them. :)

]]> By: Jeffrey Horn http://rpgcentric.com/arguing-effectively.html/comment-page-1#comment-2278 Jeffrey Horn Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:34:42 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=937#comment-2278 The only post that could top this is one on rhetoric and common fallacies. If you want, I'll send you a collection of common fallacies and you could adapt them for system arguments. They include classics like: - Straw man - Red Herring - Fallacy of Composition - Fallacy of Division - and Ad Hominem If you call in the next 30 minutes, we'll double your order! The only post that could top this is one on rhetoric and common fallacies. If you want, I’ll send you a collection of common fallacies and you could adapt them for system arguments.

They include classics like:
- Straw man
- Red Herring
- Fallacy of Composition
- Fallacy of Division
- and Ad Hominem

If you call in the next 30 minutes, we’ll double your order!

]]> By: kaeosdad http://rpgcentric.com/arguing-effectively.html/comment-page-1#comment-2277 kaeosdad Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:10:34 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=937#comment-2277 the thing I like about the blogosphere is that it takes a lot of balls really to be a dick on your own blog as opposed to being one on a forum. More often than not comments remains mostly civil and sometimes even become constructive. <abbr><em>kaeosdad´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaign/epicadventures/wikis/home-page" rel="nofollow">kaeosdad updated the wiki page Home Page</a></abbr></em> the thing I like about the blogosphere is that it takes a lot of balls really to be a dick on your own blog as opposed to being one on a forum. More often than not comments remains mostly civil and sometimes even become constructive.

kaeosdad´s last blog post..kaeosdad updated the wiki page Home Page

]]> By: reveal http://rpgcentric.com/arguing-effectively.html/comment-page-1#comment-2276 reveal Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:08:25 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=937#comment-2276 @oldNewTimer - I've been accused of using too many smilies at different times but I have found that they do help to infer the sarcasm a person attempts to use. :) @oldNewTimer – I’ve been accused of using too many smilies at different times but I have found that they do help to infer the sarcasm a person attempts to use. :)

]]> By: oldNewTimer http://rpgcentric.com/arguing-effectively.html/comment-page-1#comment-2275 oldNewTimer Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:00:26 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=937#comment-2275 This is stupid. J/K You would think that common courtesy would come into play in online discussion, but people just can't seem to resist the flame throwers. If I were to add anything to the discussion it is that wit and sarcasm are hardly ever read correctly. This is stupid.

J/K

You would think that common courtesy would come into play in online discussion, but people just can’t seem to resist the flame throwers.

If I were to add anything to the discussion it is that wit and sarcasm are hardly ever read correctly.

]]> By: reveal http://rpgcentric.com/arguing-effectively.html/comment-page-1#comment-2274 reveal Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:58:38 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=937#comment-2274 @Donny - I disagree. Dick. ;) @Donny – I disagree.

Dick.

;)

]]> By: Donny_the_DM http://rpgcentric.com/arguing-effectively.html/comment-page-1#comment-2273 Donny_the_DM Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:56:02 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=937#comment-2273 ...But it's the OTHER guys fault!... ...He said it first!... ...But he IS an idiot!... ...These rules only apply to morons, I am much too cool to be lumped in with THEM!... unfortunately, these are all valid workarounds to your well reasoned post...to an idiot, anyway :) If we had to include our phone number or address to get online, we wouldn't have these problems. <abbr><em>Donny_the_DM´s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/thefineartofthetpk/~3/503670718/skill-challenges-own-that.html" rel="nofollow">Skill Challenges - Own that @#$%!!</a></abbr></em> …But it’s the OTHER guys fault!…

…He said it first!…

…But he IS an idiot!…

…These rules only apply to morons, I am much too cool to be lumped in with THEM!…

unfortunately, these are all valid workarounds to your well reasoned post…to an idiot, anyway :)

If we had to include our phone number or address to get online, we wouldn’t have these problems.

Donny_the_DM´s last blog post..Skill Challenges – Own that @#$%!!

]]> By: reveal http://rpgcentric.com/arguing-effectively.html/comment-page-1#comment-2272 reveal Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:34:41 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=937#comment-2272 @Hammer - I don't expect folks to change their ways simply from reading a blog post, that's for sure. But I'm hoping to at least make people think before they post. Thanks for reading! :) @Hammer – I don’t expect folks to change their ways simply from reading a blog post, that’s for sure. But I’m hoping to at least make people think before they post. Thanks for reading! :)

]]> By: Hammer http://rpgcentric.com/arguing-effectively.html/comment-page-1#comment-2271 Hammer Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:25:59 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=937#comment-2271 You are, of course, spot on with this post. I don't think you'll find many people changing their commenting style because of it unfortunately. Those who want to contribute sensibly and engage in proper discourse tend to either do so regardless of silly people trolling, or not comment or just avoid sites where trolling occurs altogether. Whereas, those who troll with one word comments, 'First', insults and flaming carry on regardless because they find it entertaining. It's actually the main reason I started blogging about video games back in 2006 (that blog is now defunct unfortunately). I was fed up of reading sites like Joystiq and Kotaku (especially Kotaku) where comments were mindless pap and the site editors refused to take real action over it. So I started a blog where I could ban people for conduct like that. Shame I never never managed to get more then a few hundred hits per day, because it could have been a glorious paradise amongst the wealth of refuse filled sites. ;) Either way, the day I find Games of State getting trolling comments is the day the "Ban-Hammer" comes out. <abbr><em>Hammer´s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/GamesOfState/~3/502902326/" rel="nofollow">Whats Cooking in 2009</a></abbr></em> You are, of course, spot on with this post.

I don’t think you’ll find many people changing their commenting style because of it unfortunately.

Those who want to contribute sensibly and engage in proper discourse tend to either do so regardless of silly people trolling, or not comment or just avoid sites where trolling occurs altogether. Whereas, those who troll with one word comments, ‘First’, insults and flaming carry on regardless because they find it entertaining.

It’s actually the main reason I started blogging about video games back in 2006 (that blog is now defunct unfortunately). I was fed up of reading sites like Joystiq and Kotaku (especially Kotaku) where comments were mindless pap and the site editors refused to take real action over it. So I started a blog where I could ban people for conduct like that. Shame I never never managed to get more then a few hundred hits per day, because it could have been a glorious paradise amongst the wealth of refuse filled sites. ;)

Either way, the day I find Games of State getting trolling comments is the day the “Ban-Hammer” comes out.

Hammer´s last blog post..Whats Cooking in 2009

]]> By: reveal http://rpgcentric.com/arguing-effectively.html/comment-page-1#comment-2270 reveal Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:55:24 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=937#comment-2270 Wow. Thanks guys! :D Wow. Thanks guys! :D

]]> By: Marcel Beaudoin http://rpgcentric.com/arguing-effectively.html/comment-page-1#comment-2269 Marcel Beaudoin Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:46:48 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=937#comment-2269 I have posted a link to it (http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=1132176) in the WotC forums, and recommended it as required reading to the other VCLs on the forums... I have posted a link to it (http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=1132176) in the WotC forums, and recommended it as required reading to the other VCLs on the forums…

]]> By: SuperSooga http://rpgcentric.com/arguing-effectively.html/comment-page-1#comment-2268 SuperSooga Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:33:19 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=937#comment-2268 Marcel's right. This should be required reading whenever someone opens up their internet browser. <abbr><em>SuperSooga´s last blog post..<a href="http://soogagames.blogspot.com/2009/01/lessons-learned-from-inheritance.html" rel="nofollow">Lessons learned from Inheritance</a></abbr></em> Marcel’s right. This should be required reading whenever someone opens up their internet browser.

SuperSooga´s last blog post..Lessons learned from Inheritance

]]> By: reveal http://rpgcentric.com/arguing-effectively.html/comment-page-1#comment-2267 reveal Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:20:12 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=937#comment-2267 Glad you like it. :) Glad you like it. :)

]]> By: Marcel Beaudoin http://rpgcentric.com/arguing-effectively.html/comment-page-1#comment-2266 Marcel Beaudoin Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:03:34 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=937#comment-2266 This is an excellent, excellent post. This is an excellent, excellent post.

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