Comments on: 4E Bard Review http://rpgcentric.com/official-info-on-the-4e-bard-has-been-posted.html One gamer's opinion of everything RPG Mon, 05 Jul 2010 10:57:06 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Deistangle http://rpgcentric.com/official-info-on-the-4e-bard-has-been-posted.html/comment-page-1#comment-2452 Deistangle Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:32:49 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=311#comment-2452 I for one am completley pumped. I loved the bard as a concept (leaning more towards the skald variant, id multiclass a fighter and be a buffing secondary tank) but could never make a character that could compete with others.. i was kept around soley for countersong and talking to people.. which is great in a role-heavy game, but we dont see those as often as we'd like. The 4e bard just kicks ass. The Con-build option makes me squeal with joy. If they *Didnt* have the multiclass capability, ic ould still make a skald character with just bard powers, but the multiclass ability makes it so much better...combine this with paladins not needing to be LG anymore, and you can have such awesomeness as Bard/Paladin... mmm mmm good. I for one am completley pumped. I loved the bard as a concept (leaning more towards the skald variant, id multiclass a fighter and be a buffing secondary tank) but could never make a character that could compete with others.. i was kept around soley for countersong and talking to people.. which is great in a role-heavy game, but we dont see those as often as we’d like.
The 4e bard just kicks ass. The Con-build option makes me squeal with joy. If they *Didnt* have the multiclass capability, ic ould still make a skald character with just bard powers, but the multiclass ability makes it so much better…combine this with paladins not needing to be LG anymore, and you can have such awesomeness as Bard/Paladin… mmm mmm good.

]]> By: Wyatt http://rpgcentric.com/official-info-on-the-4e-bard-has-been-posted.html/comment-page-1#comment-1500 Wyatt Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:11:25 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=311#comment-1500 I got the article too. By means of dark and mysterious magic. And I have to say, as one who never played Bards in 3.5 and hated a player using on in my games (I would sneer and ask if they knew a friend who could play something with impact on the game – 3.5 made me just that mean) but the 4e Bard looks to be splendid. Though...I still wouldn't play one, I don't think. I dunno, just something about the bard never clicked with me. I would be more likely to take some of his powers via multiclass and stick them on a scholarly wizard or a charismatic warlock or a poetic cleric or something. <abbr><em>Wyatt´s last blog post..<a href="http://wyattsalazar.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/toradora-in-my-turbulent-thoughts-rpg-anthology/" rel="nofollow">Toradora In MY Turbulent Thoughts? (RPG Anthology)</a></abbr></em> I got the article too. By means of dark and mysterious magic.

And I have to say, as one who never played Bards in 3.5 and hated a player using on in my games (I would sneer and ask if they knew a friend who could play something with impact on the game – 3.5 made me just that mean) but the 4e Bard looks to be splendid. Though…I still wouldn’t play one, I don’t think. I dunno, just something about the bard never clicked with me. I would be more likely to take some of his powers via multiclass and stick them on a scholarly wizard or a charismatic warlock or a poetic cleric or something.

Wyatt´s last blog post..Toradora In MY Turbulent Thoughts? (RPG Anthology)

]]> By: reveal http://rpgcentric.com/official-info-on-the-4e-bard-has-been-posted.html/comment-page-1#comment-1499 reveal Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:07:09 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=311#comment-1499 @Jonathan - One of us! One of us! @Jonathan – One of us! One of us!

]]> By: Jonathan http://rpgcentric.com/official-info-on-the-4e-bard-has-been-posted.html/comment-page-1#comment-1498 Jonathan Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:39:53 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=311#comment-1498 crap! now you are making want to fold my cards and buy into the DDI madness just to keep my "bloggerific edge"... [humph!] <abbr><em>Jonathan´s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TheCoreMechanic/~3/441190419/update-2008-anthology-of-roleplaying.html" rel="nofollow">UPDATE : 2008 Anthology of Roleplaying Game Blogs</a></abbr></em> crap! now you are making want to fold my cards and buy into the DDI madness just to keep my “bloggerific edge”… [humph!]

Jonathan´s last blog post..UPDATE : 2008 Anthology of Roleplaying Game Blogs

]]> By: reveal http://rpgcentric.com/official-info-on-the-4e-bard-has-been-posted.html/comment-page-1#comment-1496 reveal Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:23:59 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=311#comment-1496 @Tom - I have the Advanced Player's Guide. The troubadour is very similar to the bard. They have the same HP, same armor profs, same bonuses to defense, etc. There are some differences, of course. For example, the 4E bard can use more ranged weapons than the troubadour. The troubadour has to choose to be the "skillful troubadour" as opposed to a different kind of troubadour but the bard is basically a skill monkey and jack-of-all-trades. The troubadour also doesn't seem to be very much focused on musical talents as opposed to the bard, For example, none of the first two level spell descriptions for the troubadour mention singing or playing an instrument as opposed to the bard which does make mention of it. @Jeff - Agreed. :) @Tom – I have the Advanced Player’s Guide. The troubadour is very similar to the bard. They have the same HP, same armor profs, same bonuses to defense, etc. There are some differences, of course. For example, the 4E bard can use more ranged weapons than the troubadour. The troubadour has to choose to be the “skillful troubadour” as opposed to a different kind of troubadour but the bard is basically a skill monkey and jack-of-all-trades. The troubadour also doesn’t seem to be very much focused on musical talents as opposed to the bard, For example, none of the first two level spell descriptions for the troubadour mention singing or playing an instrument as opposed to the bard which does make mention of it.

@Jeff – Agreed. :)

]]> By: Jeff Greiner http://rpgcentric.com/official-info-on-the-4e-bard-has-been-posted.html/comment-page-1#comment-1495 Jeff Greiner Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:10:24 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=311#comment-1495 I have to agree with your assessment entirely. I gave up on the 3e bard years ago. I never made them as PCs, I never had them around as NPCs, they were generally useless compared to the other options (especially with additional classes in other books). Beyond that I found the flavor of the 3e bard overly corny. Really, you just know everything? Really, the "power of music" is such a huge thing that it needs an entire core class tied to it? No and no. But the 4e bard looks dynamic, interesting, "performance" looks fun, versatile, etc. They get the ability to ultra-multiclass, they still do the music thing but it's not part of EVERYTHING, and they're an arcane leader. All in all, I was long bored with the 3e bard and I'm completely thrilled and excited about the 4e bard. <abbr><em>Jeff Greiner´s last blog post..<a href="http://thetome.podbean.com/2008/11/02/the-tome-ep-88-frcgpg/" rel="nofollow">The Tome Ep 88: FRCG/PG</a></abbr></em> I have to agree with your assessment entirely. I gave up on the 3e bard years ago. I never made them as PCs, I never had them around as NPCs, they were generally useless compared to the other options (especially with additional classes in other books). Beyond that I found the flavor of the 3e bard overly corny. Really, you just know everything? Really, the “power of music” is such a huge thing that it needs an entire core class tied to it? No and no.

But the 4e bard looks dynamic, interesting, “performance” looks fun, versatile, etc. They get the ability to ultra-multiclass, they still do the music thing but it’s not part of EVERYTHING, and they’re an arcane leader.

All in all, I was long bored with the 3e bard and I’m completely thrilled and excited about the 4e bard.

Jeff Greiner´s last blog post..The Tome Ep 88: FRCG/PG

]]> By: Tom C. http://rpgcentric.com/official-info-on-the-4e-bard-has-been-posted.html/comment-page-1#comment-1494 Tom C. Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:10:11 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=311#comment-1494 Thanks for this -- if you've seen or have access to the 4e Bards in the XRP "Advanced Player's Guide" and/or Goodman's "Fang, Fist, and Song", how would you say they compare to the official WotC version? Thanks for this — if you’ve seen or have access to the 4e Bards in the XRP “Advanced Player’s Guide” and/or Goodman’s “Fang, Fist, and Song”, how would you say they compare to the official WotC version?

]]> By: reveal http://rpgcentric.com/official-info-on-the-4e-bard-has-been-posted.html/comment-page-1#comment-1493 reveal Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:42:03 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=311#comment-1493 @Stuart - Of course not, but it's available only to subscriber's so I don't want o give away too much to people who don't pay for it. @Stuart – Of course not, but it’s available only to subscriber’s so I don’t want o give away too much to people who don’t pay for it.

]]> By: Stuart http://rpgcentric.com/official-info-on-the-4e-bard-has-been-posted.html/comment-page-1#comment-1490 Stuart Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:58:01 +0000 http://rpgcentric.com/?p=311#comment-1490 "Granted, I can’t get too in-depth because it is subscriber information only, but I will do my best." Huh? Did they make you sign an NDA when you subscribed? <abbr><em>Stuart´s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/NeitherworldStories/~3/441251856/fallout-3-and-thoughts-on-edition.html" rel="nofollow">Fallout 3 and thoughts on edition change</a></abbr></em> “Granted, I can’t get too in-depth because it is subscriber information only, but I will do my best.”

Huh? Did they make you sign an NDA when you subscribed?

Stuart´s last blog post..Fallout 3 and thoughts on edition change

]]>